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SZOGO v Minister for Immigration & Anor [2011] FMCA 55 (7 February 2011)

Last Updated: 9 February 2011

FEDERAL MAGISTRATES COURT OF AUSTRALIA

SZOGO v MINISTER FOR IMMIGRATION & ANOR

MIGRATION – Review of Refugee Review Tribunal decision – refusal of a Protection (Class XA) visa – no reviewable error – application dismissed.


Daniels Corporations International Pty Ltd v Australian Competition and Consumer Commission [2002] HCA 49
Dranichnikov v Minister for Immigration & Multicultural Affairs [2003] HCA 26
Minister for Immigration & Citizenship v SZLSP [2010] FCAFC 108
Pratt Holdings Pty Ltd v Commissioner of Taxation [2004] FCAFC 122; (2004) 136 FCR 357
SZHWY v Minister for Immigration & Citizenship [2007] FCAFC 64
SZNVE v Minister for Immigration & Citizenship [2010] FCA 251
SVTB v Minister for Immigration & Multicultural & Indigenous Affairs [2005] FCAFC 104
Wang v Minister for Immigration & Multicultural Affairs [2000] FCA 1599
Wheeler v Le Marchant (1881) 17 Ch D 675

Applicant:
SZOGO

First Respondent:
MINISTER FOR IMMIGRATION & CITIZENSHIP

Second Respondent:
REFUGEE REVIEW TRIBUNAL

File Number:
SYG 618 of 2010

Judgment of:
Lloyd-Jones FM

Hearing date:
4 November 2010

Delivered at:
Sydney

Delivered on:
7 February 2011

REPRESENTATION

Solicitors for the Applicant:
Mr M Jones

Counsel for the Respondents:
Ms A. Mitchelmore

Solicitors for the Respondents:
Sparke Helmore

ORDERS

(1) The Application, filed on 4 November 2010, is dismissed.
(2) The Applicant is to pay the First Respondent’s costs and disbursements, of and incidental to the application.
FEDERAL MAGISTRATES
COURT OF AUSTRALIA
AT SYDNEY

SYG 618 of 2010

SZOGO

Applicant


And


MINISTER FOR IMMIGRATION & CITIZENSHIP

First Respondent

REFUGEE REVIEW TRIBUNAL

Second Respondent


REASONS FOR JUDGMENT

Introduction

  1. In accordance with the Court orders made on 11 May 2010, the solicitor for the Respondent was required to file a folder which was to be indexed, labelled and paginated containing all of the documents which may be relevant to the hearing. This order was complied with and the volume is identified as Court Book (“CB”). On the date of the hearing, the Court Book was marked as Exhibit “A”.
  2. An affidavit of Michael Terence Jones dated 25 June 2010, was marked Exhibit B. Attached to the affidavit and marked T1 is a transcript of the hearing conducted by the second Respondent in its review of the Applicant’s Protection visa application on 1 February 2010.

The proceedings

  1. The Applicant is a citizen of Lebanon. He arrived in Australia on 12 May 2009 and applied to the Department of Immigration & Citizenship for a Protection (Class XA) visa on 16 September 2009. A delegate of the Minister refused to grant the Applicant a Protection visa on 18 November 2009 and notified the Applicant of the decision and his review rights by letter dated 18 November 2009. The Applicant applied to the Refugee Review Tribunal for a review of the delegate’s decision on 1 December 2009. On 17 February 2010, the Refugee Review Tribunal affirmed the decision of the delegate and it is this decision that is the subject of these proceedings.
  2. In support of his Protection visa application, the Applicant claims that he was raised in a conservative Muslim family. The Applicant states that he was introduced by a work colleague (a devout preacher) to the Jehovah’s Witness (JW) faith. Due to his conservative Muslim background, he was fearful of pursuing his new religion in Lebanon as JW’s are viewed as a political organisation rather than a religion. The Applicant claims that he cannot practise the JW faith in a way that he would like to as it requires preaching and attending prayer meetings as required by the Bible, which are prohibited in Lebanon and he fears persecution.
  3. The original application contained a single ground which claimed that the Tribunal failed to consider the entirety of the Applicant’s case. At the commencement of the hearing, Mr Jones sought leave to file an Amended Application to include a further ground of appeal arising from the conduct of the hearing. As there was no objection, leave was granted. The Amended Application dated 4 November 2010, contains the following grounds:

Consideration

Ground one

  1. Mr Jones, appearing for the Applicant, relied on two grounds:
    1. that the Tribunal failed to consider the entirety of the Applicant’s case; and
    2. the conduct of the Tribunal at the hearing.
  2. Mr Jones states that the Applicant’s fear of persecution in his home country was based on being perceived as an apostate for Islam, whereas the Tribunal concentrated instead on whether the Applicant had a “correct and orthodox understanding of the doctrines of a particular religion, the Jehovah witnesses”. In doing so, it constructively failed to exercise its jurisdiction by failing to address the Applicant’s case.
  3. In his application for the visa, the Applicant stated that he would suffer “serious harm” (CB 22) at the hands of his “family and other Islamic fundamentalists” (CB 23), and in answer to a question on the application form, the Applicant gave the following response:

(CB 23)

  1. Mr Jones contends that during the course of the Tribunal hearing, the Applicant developed his argument in the following way.
    1. He was introduced to a different religion and liked it, it was an offence to leave Islam (T6,43-45).
    2. He asked his father what would happen if someone changed their religion and was told that he would be cut into four pieces (T 7,3-6).
    1. His father and uncle are Islamic fanatics (T 7, 29-40).
    1. He became interested in the JW religion through a friend he met in Lebanon. The reason for his interest was because he was attracted to “people who love peace or they don’t like war, and they don’t like to kill each other” (T8,1-6).
    2. The Applicant’s friend was honest and straightforward, did not lie or like people who lied. He was true to his feelings (T 7,21-23). He did not like to fight, and explained that his religion was peaceful and did not believe in overpowering people or using force (T 8, 1-10). The JW faith was anti-war, but pro peace and people, and honesty. The Applicant was impressed, and thought it was a “nice religion” (T 8, 20-22). Practitioners of the faith were nice to each other, loved and hugged each other. He found this a “nice thing” (T 8, 27-29).
  2. Mr Jones stated that since the Applicant’s arrival in Australia, he had developed an awareness of and practised more specific instructions in the doctrine of their religion. However, he was aware that he was still learning and was not yet qualified to tell other people about their religion (T 18, 40-41). The Tribunal questioned the Applicant in considerable detail about his involvement with JW’s in Australia (T 11, 6-12, 22; T 14, 41-15, 14) and the doctrines of the religion (T 15, 15-18, 47). The Applicant gave credible descriptions of his personal study of a Mr Taba (T 11, 11-12.9) and attendance at a JW meeting room in Keilor, which he described in some detail (T 12, 11-22, 14, 41-15, 13).
  3. Mr Jones submits that the Applicant’s knowledge of the doctrine of the religion was commensurate with his claim to be a learner and is not yet ready for baptism (T 18, 47). In particular, he had learned that they believed Jehovah was God and Christ was his son (T 15, 24); they did not believe in statues or birthdays (T 15,30-31); that Jesus would rule the world with 144,000 people who have risen from the dead (T 16, 1-7); nor that there was only one holy day (T 18, 1-2). The Applicant did not bring a book written in Arabic to the hearing but advised the Tribunal when questioned about this book, that it was in his car. This book is an introductory work about the faith that he found easier to understand than the full Bible (T 19, 5-20, 10). Although the Applicant made reference to “the holy bible” (T 20, 44), he was quite aware that the practitioners did not use that term (T 19, 33).
  4. The argument advanced by Mr Jones is that the Tribunal concluded, without citing any evidence, that the Applicant’s knowledge of the doctrine was “rehearsed” (CB 177 at [76]) and that his activities in Australia were not “due to a genuine interest in the JW faith” (CB 118 at [81]). In reaching this conclusion, the Tribunal was concentrating on the Applicant’s level of intellectual knowledge of the doctrine. The Applicant, however, did not claim that he was interested in the religion for that reason. It is submitted that the Tribunal imposed on the Applicant’s claim a mechanistic and overly intellectual interpretation of a person’s motivation in becoming interested in a particular religion. It did not ask itself the right questions, which were whether the Applicant could expect to face persecution on his return to Lebanon because of his interest in the JW faith and his consequent rejection of Islam. Instead, it transposed the critical question of whether the Applicant had a sufficiently sophisticated understanding of the JW dogma to be considered a genuine convert. Mr Jones referred the Court to the decision in Wang v Minister for Immigration & Multicultural Affairs [2000] FCA 1599 per Wilcox J at [10].
  5. Mr Jones states that the evidence before the Tribunal was that the Applicant had less than full secondary school education (CB 19) and had worked as a waiter and trainee hairdresser (CB 20). He expressed his interest in the religion as being based on his perception of it being non violent, honest and loving, which he presumably found more attractive than the fundamentalist Islam of his immediate family. The Tribunal’s entire strategy of questioning, however, was premised on what it considered to be the important feature of religion, such as its somewhat complex attitude towards life after death. The Tribunal’s assessment on whether the Applicant was credible was therefore based on a misunderstanding of what the Applicant’s claims really were.
  6. Ms Mitchelmore submits that contrary to the Applicant’s submissions, the Applicant’s fear of persecution in his home country was not based on him being perceived as an Apostate from Islam, but rather was put on the basis of his conversion to the JW faith. To the extent that claim raised a further claim to fear harm by reason of his conversion from Islam, the latter was considered. It was submitted that the Tribunal found that the Applicant would not have a well founded fear of persecution on his return to Lebanon on the basis that he did not hold, nor had he ever held, any genuine interest in converting from Islam to the JW faith. Accordingly, it did not accept that there was “a real chance that his father, uncle or any other Islamic follower or fanatic in Lebanon will seek to harm him in relation to his religion (real or perceived)” (CB 188 at [82]).
  7. Ms Mitchelmore submits that the Tribunal’s findings in para.[82] indicate that it turned its mind specifically to the question of whether the Applicant faced any real or imputed harm for reason of his religion and whether this related to Islam, to the JW faith or any conversion formed. The Tribunal found that he did not. In circumstances where the Tribunal considered whether the Applicant had a well founded fear of persecution on the basis of his belief in JW (which would make an apostate), but also on the basis that he might be perceived to hold the belief (and hence to have converted from Islam), the Applicant’s contention that the Tribunal did not consider the possibility that he may be perceived as having been an apostate is without foundation.
  8. Ms Mitchelmore submits that when the Tribunal reached its conclusion that the Applicant was not a credible witness, the Tribunal did not “impose on the Applicant’s claim a mechanistic and overly intellectual interpretation of a person’s motivation in becoming interested in a particular religion” (Mr Jones’ submissions at [12]). Rather, it rejected the Applicant as a credible witness after considering the evidence before it, including, inter alia his poor level of particular tenants of JW that it considered a new adherent would know. When questioning the Applicant on the subject, the Tribunal relied on a number of sources which it identified in its decision record, including the official website of JW and textbooks written on the faith.
  9. Mr Jones made detailed oral submissions identifying issues that the Applicant found attractive about the religion. Where the Tribunal addressed its reasoning as to the technical details of his understanding of the dogma, it misunderstood why the Applicant was attracted to the religion. Properly put, the Applicant’s fear is that if the reasons for the attraction are found out, he will suffer persecution for it. Mr Jones argues that these circumstances are essentially the same as the situation in Dranichnikov v Minister for Immigration & Multicultural Affairs [2003] HCA 26 at [87]-[88] which states:
  10. Mr Jones contends that in Dranichnikov v Minister for Immigration & Multicultural Affairs (supra), Mr Dranichnikov claimed to be a particular type of business person and the Tribunal had considered the case on the basis of a too widely defined particular social group. In Dranichnikov the delegate characterised the claim as that of a “businessman” who participated in organised protest gatherings and meetings, which involved criticising the work of the policing authorities. The delegate recorded the stabbing attack on the Applicant, the lack of interest of the authorities and the Applicant’s feeling that the attack was caused by him speaking out against the authorities. The delegate considered the Applicant’s case in the context of the Convention category of “membership of a particular social group”. The delegate identified the social group in question as “entrepreneurs” and expanded this class, noting that businessmen in Russia were at risk from criminal organisations with links to the authorities.
  11. The delegate recorded the Applicant’s belief that his profile had been raised because he organised anti criminal meetings and spoke out in public against the authorities in ability to defeat crime. However in the delegate’s decision, it described the basis for the Applicant’s fear which as facing deferential harm as a businessman and proceeded to dismiss the application.
  12. Mr Dranichnokov applied to the Tribunal seeking a review of the delegate’s decision by the Tribunal. In support of this application, he called on his migration agent, a solicitor, to write to the Registrar of the Tribunal clarifying his claim for protection. In this letter, the agent emphasised the importance of attributing weight to Mr Dranichnokov’s protest activities which raised his profile within the community Vladivostok. The letter also noted that the threats to him and his family can in part be attributed to his involvement in these activities. In his evidence before the Tribunal, Mr Dranichnokov asserted and elaborated on these aspects of his claim by describing how he had joined in an attempt to act on the problem of attacks on businessmen, evidenced by the attack on him.
  13. The Tribunal accepted that Mr Dranichnokov and his wife were credible witnesses but misstated the social group that was relied on by the Applicant. The Tribunal approached the issue as describing the social group as “businessmen in Russia and went on to affirm the delegate’s decision not to grant the Applicant a Protection visa”.
  14. In the joint judgment of Dranichnokov their Honours Gummow and Callinan JJ with whom Hayne J agreed at [24] stated:

Their Honours further stated at [26]-[27]:

[26] At the outset it should be pointed out that the task of the tribunal involves a number of steps. First the tribunal needs to determine whether the group or class to which an Applicant claims to belong is capable of constituting a social group for the purposes of the Convention.2 That determination in part at least involves a question of law. If that question is answered affirmatively, the next question, one of fact, is whether the Applicant is a member of that class. There then follow the questions whether the Applicant has a fear, whether the fear is well-founded, and if it is, whether it is for a Convention reason.
[27] The tribunal failed to decide the first question. It decided another question, whether Mr Dranichnikov's membership of a social group, namely, of “businessmen in Russia” was a reason for his persecution and relevantly nothing more. The tribunal should have decided the matter which was put to it, whether Mr Dranichnikov was a member of a social group consisting of entrepreneurs and businessmen who publicly criticised law enforcement authorities for failing to take action against crime or criminals.
  1. The application for judicial review of the Tribunal’s decision was heard in the Federal Court at first by a primary judge and subsequently by the Full Court. At both levels, the Applicant failed. As Mr Dranichnokov was a self represented litigant, he proceeded on a complaint which was held to be an impermissible attempt on the part of the Applicant to impeach the Tribunal’s decision for an error of fact and did not promote the issues that were ultimately argued before the High Court. In the special leave application before the High Court, the claim was that the Tribunal and the Federal Court had misunderstood and misstated the Applicant’s case grounded in the Convention.
  2. Mr Jones relies on the authority in Dranichnokov, that the Tribunal asked the wrong question for the Applicant’s fear of persecution. The argument advanced by Mr Jones is that the Tribunal did not ask itself the right question which should have been whether the Applicant could expect to face persecution on return to Lebanon because of his interest in the JW faith and his constant rejection of Islam. Rather the Tribunal “transported the critical question of “whether the Applicant had a sufficiently sophisticated understanding of JW dogma to be considered a genuine convert”.
  3. In SZNVE v Minister for Immigration & Citizenship [2010] FCA 251 His Honour Logan J at [23] states:
  4. The application in Dranichnokov was distinguished in SVTB v Minister for Immigration & Multicultural & Indigenous Affairs [2005] FCAFC 104 per Marshall, Mansfield and Stone JJ at [27]-[28] where their Honours state:
  5. This brings this Court to the question of whether the genuine interest in the JW faith can be isolated into two separate components, those being:
    1. an intellectual knowledge of the doctrine and dogma; or
    2. the philosophical interest in the absence of specific knowledge of the doctrine.
  6. In the original visa application, which was prepared by the Applicant’s migration agent / solicitor, at question 41 states:

(CB 21)

At question 42:

What do you fear may happen to you if you go back to that country?
I fear that my family will seriously harm me if they were to discover that I am a Jehovahs witness. I am very keen on pursuing my new faith and aim to be baptised. I am also very keen to practice my faith in a manner which is required by the Bible including preaching and attending prayer group meetings. In Lebanon my adherence to my new faith will remain extremely limited due to the danger that is associated with being a Jehovahs witness.
I cannot rely on the protection of the Lebanese authorities as they too are hostile due to the Jehovahs witness and also because they are loath to intervene in matters involving religious disputes or restoration of family honour.
My ability to practise my faith will remain extremely limited in Lebanon and I could not hope to overtly practise core tenants of my faith as required by our teachings.

(CB 22)

  1. An integral element of the Applicant’s visa application claim, centres on the adherence to the JW faith and I am not satisfied that I can accept Mr Jones’ invitation that the issue of an intellectual interpretation and understanding can be separated from the adoption of the ritual or dogma. The way in which a substantial part of the general population identify and distinguish between the various faiths is by the manifestation of the ritual or dogma associated with different faiths. Even the scholars that are associated with various faiths are focused on the esoteric aspect of the ritual followed by their particular faith which in many cases is dogma followed for centuries without foundation or logical reason. On Mr Jones’ submission, his client does not possess the educational or intellectual ability to address his conversion in these terms. In the visa application, the Applicant states that one of his serious concerns was the limits on him practising the faith in accordance with its core tenants. This claim indicates a sufficient understanding of the faith that needs to be pursued by its adherence. There is no denial in respect to the Applicant’s level of education. However, his exposure to a JW devotee provided him with a sufficient understanding of the doctrine that needs to be followed to achieve the benefits of adherence.
  2. The other significant element of the Applicant’s claim is his identification as an apostate of Islam. If his level of interest and involvement is restricted to a deep admiration of the adherent of the JW faith, he would not be required to denounce his Islamic faith. However, he states his desire to obtain sufficient education in the JW faith so that he can seek baptism. This indicates that the Applicant has a sufficient intellectual involvement, which indicates he is aware of the consequences of pursuing this objective and denouncing his Islamic faith. In these circumstances, the authorities indicate that the Tribunal is entitled to assess the Applicant’s knowledge about his alleged faith.
  3. Ms Mitchelmore submits that assessing the Applicant’s knowledge about his alleged faith does not provide a basis for asserting that the Tribunal fell into jurisdictional error. This was identified in Minister for Immigration & Citizenship v SZLSP [2010] FCAFC 108 at [38] per Kenny J where Her Honour stated:
  4. I am not satisfied that the Tribunal erred by transposing the critical question in assessing the Applicant’s intellectual understanding of the essential core tenants of the faith are. Further, I believe that this issue is an invitation to the Court to pursue an impermissible attempt to review the merits of the Tribunal’s finding on the issue of the Applicant’s conversion, real or perceived to the JW faith.

Ground two

  1. Mr Jones submits that during the course of the hearing, the Tribunal questioned the Applicant about his reasons for not attending an interview with an immigration officer before the delegate’s decision was made (T 21.7-22.11). The evidence before the Tribunal was that the Applicant was at all relevant times represented by a legal practitioner (CB 1), and that the interview was cancelled by that legal practitioner on the instructions from the Applicant (CB 42). The Tribunal was on notice that the Applicant had discussed attending the interview with his solicitor. It did not advise the Applicant that he was entitled to legal professional privilege in respect of his communications with his legal representative as was obliged to do: SZHWY v Minister for Immigration & Citizenship [2007] FCAFC 64 per Lander J at [75]-[77] and Rares J at [159].
  2. His Honour Lander J at [44] states:

His Honour then addresses the issue of reviewable error as follows:

[73] It is in those circumstances that this Court is called upon to consider whether the Tribunal made a reviewable error in its review of the decision of the delegate of the Minister. The Tribunal’s decision will be reviewable, notwithstanding the provisions of s 474, if it involved jurisdictional error. A decision must not involve a failure to exercise jurisdiction or be made in excess of jurisdiction. In Plaintiff S 157/2002 v Commonwealth of Australia (2003) 211 CLR 476, Gaudron, McHugh, Gummow, Kirby and Hayne JJ said at 506:
Thus, if there has been jurisdictional error because, for example, of a failure to discharge “imperative duties” or to observe “inviolable limitations or restraints”, the decision in question cannot properly be described in the terms used in s 474(2) as “a decision ... made under this Act” and is, thus, not a “privative clause decision” as defined in s 474(2) and (3) of the Act.
(Footnotes omitted.)
[74] A decision maker who exceeds the authority or power given by the Act under which the decision maker is empowered to act commits jurisdictional error.
[75] In my opinion, the Tribunal was under an obligation to advise the appellant that he was entitled to refuse the questions which the Tribunal asked of him if they were to disclose the contents of a confidential communication with his lawyer had for the purpose of obtaining or giving legal advice or assistance or for use in the proceedings before the Tribunal.
[76] That obligation arises because the Tribunal, like any other administrative decision maker, is not entitled to exercise a power to destroy a freedom of communication which the law seeks to protect: Baker v Campbell per Dawson J at 131. The Tribunal was in the same position as an administrative decision maker who has the power to require documents to be produced. The decision maker should not exercise the power to require a party to produce documents which are subject to legal professional privilege: Commissioner of Australian Federal Police v Propend Finance Pty Ltd [1996] HCA 3; (1997) 188 CLR 501 at 537; Arno v Forsyth (1986) 9 FCR 576. A decision maker should not purport to exercise a power to require a person to answer a question which the law would excuse that person from answering.
[77] In my opinion, the Tribunal, when conducting its inquiry and in the exercise of its inquisitorial function, should advise a person of their right to claim privilege against self-incrimination or legal professional privilege if it appears that a question asked of the person may give rise to a legitimate claim of that privilege.
  1. His Honour Rares J at [163] supports this view.
  2. Mr Jones then referred the Court to the transcript of the Tribunal hearing to the following sequence of questioning that appears at page 21.
  3. Mr Jones then referred the Court to an email transmission from Firmstone & Associates forwarded on 11 November 2009 at 10.42 am regarding “[SZOGO] – Invitation to Interview”. The body of the transmission states:
  4. Mr Jones advances the argument that the Departmental file that was before the Tribunal clearly indicated that the Applicant was represented by Firmstone & Associates and that the principle of that firm was Mr Sam Issa, solicitor. Mr Jones submits that the Tribunal was on notice that this person that is referred to as the authorised recipient is in fact a solicitor. The Tribunal, in referring to that email, makes it clear that it was also aware that the email referred to instructions that the solicitor had received from his client concerning attending the interview. Mr Jones argues that what is involved is a communication between the Applicant and his solicitor in relation to a matter that brought it within the meaning of the legal professional privilege or the coverage of legal professional privilege. The consequence of this is that this is something that the Tribunal was not permitted to question the Applicant about, at least not without warning the Applicant that legal professional privilege entitled him not to answer and there was no such warning given.
  5. Mr Jones submits the fact that the Tribunal failed in its obligation to warn the Applicant that he need not divulge the content of any communication between himself and the solicitor amounted to jurisdictional error regardless of whether or not the information concerning was material to the final outcome of the case: SZHWY v MIAC (supra) per Lander J at [79]-[82]. In any event in this case the Tribunal did consider that information given by the Applicant and his answer was relevant to the findings on credibility (CB 117 at [78]).
  6. Ms Mitchelmore submits that legal professional privilege extends to confidential communications between a client and his or her lawyer made in the context of a lawyer – client relationship for the dominant purpose of obtaining or giving legal advice, or to prepare or conduct existing or reasonably anticipated litigation: Pratt Holdings Pty Ltd v Commissioner of Taxation [2004] FCAFC 122; (2004) 136 FCR 357 per Finn J at [40]-[42] and per Stone J at [103]-[106]; Wheeler v Le Marchant (1881) 17 Ch D 675.
  7. Ms Mitchelmore submits that the Tribunal’s questioning of the Applicant in relation to his failure to attend the Departmental interview did not encroach upon any area where the Applicant might have been entitled to claim legal professional privilege. The situation can be contrasted with the exchange that arose in SZHWY, where the majority held that the Tribunal was required to put the Applicant on notice of his ability to make a claim of privilege in relation to the contents of privilege in communications with a lawyer. In that case, the Tribunal asked the Applicant direct questions about what he told a solicitor about his substantive visa claim and what the solicitor advised him to do in response: SZHWY (supra) per Lander J at [8].
  8. Ms Mitchelmore submits that in this case, the Applicant’s response to the Tribunal’s concern about his failure to attend the Departmental interview was that he was sick. The mere fact that he had told his lawyer he was sick did not make this a privileged communication. Nor did his statement to the Tribunal that he had told the lawyer he was sick divulge a confidential communication between the Applicant and his lawyer, for the dominant purpose of receiving legal advice or for the use by his solicitor in existing or reasonably contemplated Tribunal proceedings. After the Applicant mentioned his lawyer, the Tribunal asked no further questions on the subject of his non attendance at the interview.
  9. Ms Mitchelmore submits that the Tribunal was entitled to raise its concern that the Applicant did not attend the departmental interview with him, and to question him about his answers, without putting him on notice as to his entitlement for a claim legal professional privilege.

Observations re ground two

  1. On the material before the Court, I am satisfied that the Tribunal was not in any way seeking to elicit from the Applicant any discussion that he had between himself and his registered migration agent, who was also a solicitor. The material reproduced above is clear that what the Tribunal was asking the Applicant to comment on was why he did not go to the hearing before the delegate. The fact that his intention was not to attend the hearing was communicated by his solicitor, does not give rise to any need to provide the Applicant with a warning as to the operation of legal professional privilege before answering the question when all the Tribunal is asking is why the Applicant did not attend. The questions and answers that were subsequently given were that the Applicant was sick and claimed that he could not walk or talk and that is why the email was forwarded to the Department. The email which is reproduced above makes no reference to his illness but was disclosed to the Tribunal member because he was sick.
  2. In Australia, legal professional privilege is a rule of substantive law that reflects important common law immunity. In Daniels Corporations International Pty Ltd v Australian Competition and Consumer Commission [2002] HCA 49 Gleeson CJ, Gaudron, Gummow and Hayne JJ said at [9] – [11]:
  3. His Honour McHugh J said at [44]:
  4. In Pratt Holdings v Cmr of Taxation [2004] FCAFC 122; (2004) 136 FCR 357; 207 ALR 217; BC200402621, Finn J noted at [12]–[13] that:
  5. In the transcript of the hearing at p.22, line 10 with the interpreter responding to the Tribunal member stating:
  6. At that stage, the Tribunal member did not pursue any further questions in respect of what was said between the Applicant and his solicitor. The Tribunal member then pursued a new course of questions on a new subject. I have formed the view that nothing in that response or that course of questioning would give rise to a claim for legal professional privilege. This was a general question as to why the Applicant did not attend and the subject was not of a nature that falls within the decision of SZHWY (supra). I note that the Applicant’s agent was in attendance at the hearing and would have been in a position to make a claim on his behalf to preserve his client’s interest. The circumstances disclosed by the transcript reproduced above, indicate that these circumstances are not one where a warning was required because unlike SZHWY where the Tribunal was directly asking the Applicant what happened, whether he went and saw his solicitor, what the solicitor told him and what the solicitor advised him to do clearly placed that sequence of questioning that may disclose a legal professional privilege communication. However, I am satisfied that has not occurred in the matter before this Court and there would be no requirement for the Tribunal to give a warning. I am satisfied that the second ground cannot be sustained and should be dismissed.

Conclusion

  1. I am satisfied that neither of the grounds in the amended application can be sustained and the application should be dismissed with costs.

I certify that the preceding fifty (50) paragraphs are a true copy of the reasons for judgment of Lloyd-Jones FM


Date: 7 February 2011


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